How ocarinas spread to japan

How ocarinas spread to japan

 
Robert
Administrator
33
04-10-2026, 01:03 AM
#1
Hautboy found this page stating that Aketagawa started making ocarinas inspired by Fiehn's around 1928, and that he found one in a department store. That implies that Fiehn were distributing ocarinas outside of Europe.

https://www.aketagawamuseum.org/takashi_aketagawa/
Robert
04-10-2026, 01:03 AM #1

Hautboy found this page stating that Aketagawa started making ocarinas inspired by Fiehn's around 1928, and that he found one in a department store. That implies that Fiehn were distributing ocarinas outside of Europe.

https://www.aketagawamuseum.org/takashi_aketagawa/

Jack Campin
Junior Member
27
04-17-2026, 01:48 PM
#2
I have just been listening to some traditional Japanese flute music.  Not so much shakuhachi as the music for the Noh drama.  This uses a special kind of fife with a narrowing insert in the bore that makes it overblow by a seventh rather than an octave.  Both this Noh music (with its spare and explosive percussion) and the shakuhachi use extreme dynamic contrasts - it's like they practice by spitting holes through a brick.  I don't know any other tradition that uses flutes for such wild ferocity.

An ocarina can get some way towards that, if you use a single-chamber with limited range.  But the Japanese makers went the opposite way.  Wider pitch range and drastically restricted dynamics, to fit in with the blandly mushy easy-listening idiom of American postwar light music (which is where the anime/game style comes from).  The only ocarina players I've heard attempting the grit you find in old Japanese music were a young Korean trio.  Korean trad has teeth too.

Are there any Japanese makers who get this?
Jack Campin
04-17-2026, 01:48 PM #2

I have just been listening to some traditional Japanese flute music.  Not so much shakuhachi as the music for the Noh drama.  This uses a special kind of fife with a narrowing insert in the bore that makes it overblow by a seventh rather than an octave.  Both this Noh music (with its spare and explosive percussion) and the shakuhachi use extreme dynamic contrasts - it's like they practice by spitting holes through a brick.  I don't know any other tradition that uses flutes for such wild ferocity.

An ocarina can get some way towards that, if you use a single-chamber with limited range.  But the Japanese makers went the opposite way.  Wider pitch range and drastically restricted dynamics, to fit in with the blandly mushy easy-listening idiom of American postwar light music (which is where the anime/game style comes from).  The only ocarina players I've heard attempting the grit you find in old Japanese music were a young Korean trio.  Korean trad has teeth too.

Are there any Japanese makers who get this?